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Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby E910 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:20 am

Had a couple of old filters laying around that had been used on the Mrs car (AE111 4AGE). I decided to cut them open them just to see how much difference there is between a Toyota/Denso (made in japan) & cheap repco aftermartket filter (made in china). I was surprised at the make up of the genuine filter (LH). It had considerably more filtration membrane than the aftermarket (RH).
Another observation I made was the repco filter had been used with Castrol Magnatec 10w40 by the previous owner. The inside of the filter housing is covered in sludge. I guess thats the "intelligent molecules" :lol: Where as I had used synthetic 0w30 with the toyota filter. It was clean apart from lots of grit that it had cleaned up from around the engine (I don't think this poor old 4AGE is in the best condition). Hence why it is important to run a synthetic 5w30 with any VVT system to keep them clean & lubricated properly.

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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby stabby » Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:51 pm

wow that is some dirt inside.. :shock:

It would be different if a say Greddy or HKS filter was used right?
Anyone have a used one that they would like to cut open? 8)
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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby wullie_trd » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:12 pm

I've tried performance oil filters in the past and I've come to the conclusion that they are just a con!
Just as we'll using genuine oem filter.

Here a pic of an HKS one I used a while back, keep in mind my cars not driven daily and filter had only been on car bout 6 months

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Didn't open it up though sorry
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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby banan1984 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:06 pm

You got me thinking now Carl.. I will switch to Motul 5W30 full syn! But tell me won't there be any harm swaping from 10W40 semi? I was using that oil nearly 2 years now and I change it 4 times over that period?
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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby Robin H » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:51 pm

I'm currently using an mr2 turbo filter in mine which is just a longer filter than the altezza
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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby tomo » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:04 pm

Robin H wrote:I'm currently using an mr2 turbo filter in mine which is just a longer filter than the altezza


I tried this one in my car robin, for some reason didn't get as good oil pressure tho so I put the standard size one back on.
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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby sxe10mike » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:04 pm

I've noticed that I have lower pressure with an aftermarket oil filter. Switching to a standard on the next service.
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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby E910 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:32 pm

banan1984 wrote:You got me thinking now Carl.. I will switch to Motul 5W30 full syn! But tell me won't there be any harm swaping from 10W40 semi? I was using that oil nearly 2 years now and I change it 4 times over that period?
There wont be any harm, the only thing is I might only do 5K km on the first lot of synthetic oil as it will clean out lots of crud & you wont want that circulating around your engine for to long. If you can pick up some Shell Helux Ultra 5w30 cheap it be fine for the first flush & save you a few €.
Which Motul are you going to use? 8100 or H-Tech? Don't know if I've told you guys yet but I'm now a Motul retailer!

I've got a Cusco filter in the shed as well. I'm going to open it up this weekend so will put pics up.

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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby banan1984 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:05 am

D700 / RS200

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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby E910 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:58 pm

Out of that lot this one is best suited for the 3SGE :arrow: http://www.intrexcarparts.ie/car_acceso ... hetic/p488 €42 for 5L is a good price too.

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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby darraghc » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:08 pm

Can genuine filters be bought from a toyota dealer in Ireland even though altezza's weren't sold here from new

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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby banan1984 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:49 pm

Ok Carl thanks for that :)

darraghc wrote:Can genuine filters be bought from a toyota dealer in Ireland even though altezza's weren't sold here from new


There is absolutely no problem whatsoever, just give them chassis number
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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby jarocki » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:05 pm

out of curiosity what is fuchs oil like? have heard some good things about it.

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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby E910 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:39 am

Fuchs make quality oil. Titan GT1 PRO FLEX 5W-30 would be my choice for the 3SGE

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Re: Genuine oil filter vs Aftermarket

Postby neilis200 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:45 am

jes its fair bad. just goes to show your oil needs to be changed regularly
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